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The Interview:
In 1961, the name of Marshall McLuhan
was unknown to everyone but his English students at the
University of Toronto--and a coterie of academic admirers
who followed his abstruse articles in small-circulation
quarterlies. But then came two remarkable books-- "The
Gutenberg Galaxy" (1962) and "Understanding
Media" (1964)--and the graying professor from Canada's
western hinterlands soon found himself characterized by
the San Francisco Chronicle as "the hottest academic
property around." He has since won a world-wide following
for his brilliant--and frequently baffling--theories about
the impact of the media on man; and his name has entered
the French language as mucluhanisme, a synonym for the
world of pop culture.
Though his books are written in a difficult
style--at once enigmatic, epigrammatic and overgrown with
arcane literary and historic allusions--the revolutionary
ideas lurking in them have made McLuhan a best-selling
author. Despite protests from a legion of outraged scholastics
and old-guard humanists who claim that McLuhan's ideas
range from demented to dangerous, his free-for-all theorizing
has attracted the attention of top executives at General
Motors (who paid him a handsome fee to inform them that
automobiles were a thing of the past), Bell Telephone
(to whom he explained that they didn't really understand
the function of the telephone) and a leading package-design
house (which was told that packages will soon be obsolete).
Anteing up $5000, another huge corporation asked him to
predict--via closed-circuit television--what their own
products will be used for in the future; and Canada's
turned-on Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau engages him in
monthly bull sessions designed to improve his television
image.
McLuhan's observations--"probes,"
he prefers to call them--are riddled with such flamboyantly
undecipherable aphorisms as "The electric light is
pure information" and "People don't actually
read newspapers--they get into them every morning like
a hot bath." Of his own work, McLuhan has remarked:
"I don't pretend to understand it. After all, my
stuff is very difficult." Despite his convoluted
syntax, flashy metaphors and word-playful one-liners,
however, McLuhan's basic thesis is relatively simple.
McLuhan contends that all media--in
and of themselves and regardless of the messages they
communicate--exert a compelling influence on man and society.
Prehistoric, or tribal, man existed in a harmonious balance
of the senses, perceiving the world equally through hearing,
smell, touch, sight and taste. But technological innovations
are extensions of human abilities and senses that alter
this sensory balance--an alteration that, in turn, inexorably
reshapes the society that created the technology. According
to McLuhan, there have been three basic technological
innovations: the invention of the phonetic alphabet, which
jolted tribal man out of his sensory balance and gave
dominance to the eye; the introduction of movable type
in the 16th Century, which accelerated this process; and
the invention of the telegraph in 1844, which heralded
an electronics revolution that will ultimately retribalize
man by restoring his sensory balance. McLuhan has made
it his business to explain and extrapolate the repercussions
of this electronic revolution.
For his efforts, critics have dubbed
him "the Dr. Spock of pop culture," "the
guru of the boob tube," a "Canadian Nkrumah
who has joined the assault on reason," a "metaphysical
wizard possessed by a spatial sense of madness,"
and "the high priest of popthink who conducts a Black
Mass for dilettantes before the altar of historical determinism."
Amherst professor Benjamin De-Mott observed: "He's
swinging, switched on, with it and NOW. And wrong."
But as Tom Wolfe has aptly inquired,
"What if he is right? Suppose he is what he sounds
like--the most important thinker since Newton, Darwin,
Freud, Einstein and Pavlov?" Social historian Richard
Kostelanetz contends that "the most extraordinary
quality of McLuhan's mind is that it discerns significance
where others see only data, or nothing; he tells us how
to measure phenomena previously unmeasurable."
The unperturbed subject of this controversy
was born in Edmonton, Alberta, on July 21, 1911. The son
of a former actress and a real-estate salesman, McLuhan
entered the University of Manitoba intending to become
an engineer, but matriculated in 1934 with an M.A. in
English literature. Next came a stint as an oarsman and
graduate student at Cambridge, followed by McLuhan's first
teaching job--at the University of Wisconsin. It was a
pivotal experience. "I was confronted with young
Americans 'I was incapable of understanding," he
has since remarked. "I felt an urgent need to study
their popular culture in order to get through." With
the seeds sown, McLuhan let them germinate while earning
a Ph.D., then taught at Catholic universities. (He is
a devout Roman Catholic convert.)
His publishing career began with a number
of articles on standard academic fare; but by the mid-Forties,
his interest in popular culture surfaced, and true McLuhan
efforts such as "The Psychopathology of Time and
Life" began to appear. They hit book length for the
first time in 1951 with the publication of "The Mechanical
Bride"--an analysis of the social and psychological
pressures generated by the press, radio, movies and advertising--and
McLuhan was on his way. Though the book attracted little
public notice, it won him the chairmanship of a Ford Foundation
seminar on culture and communications and a $40,000 grant,
with part of which he started "Explorations,"
a small periodical outlet for the seminar's findings.
By the late Fifties, his reputation had trickled down
to Washington: In 1959, he became director of the Media
Project of the National Association of Educational Broadcasters
and the United States Office of Education, and the report
resulting from this post became the first draft of "Understanding
Media." Since 1963, McLuhan has headed the University
of Toronto's Center for Culture and Technology, which
until recently consisted entirely of McLuhan's office,
but now includes a six-room campus building.
Apart from his teaching, lecturing and
administrative duties, McLuhan has become a sort of minor
communication industry unto himself. Each month he issues
to subscribers a mixed-media report called "The McLuhan
Dew-Line"; and, punning on that title, he has also
originated a series of recordings called "The Marshall
McLuhan Dew-Line Plattertudes." McLuhan contributed
a characteristically mind-expanding essay about the media--"The
Reversal of the Overheated-Image"--to our December
1968 issue. Also a compulsive collaborator, his literary
efforts in tandem with colleagues have included a high
school textbook and an analysis of the function of space
in poetry and painting. "Counterblast," his
next book, is a manically graphic trip through the land
of his theories.
In order to provide our readers with
a map of this labyrinthine terra incognita, PLAYBOY assigned
interviewer Eric Norden to visit McLuhan at his
spacious new home in the wealthy Toronto suburb of Wychwood
Park, where he lives with his wife, Corinne, and five
of his six children. (His eldest son lives in New York,
where he is completing a book on James Joyce, one of his
father's heroes.) Norden reports: "Tall, gray and
gangly, with a thin but mobile mouth and an otherwise
eminently forgettable face, McLuhan was dressed in an
ill-fitting brown tweed suit, black shoes and a clip-on
necktie. As we talked on into the night before a crackling
fire, McLuhan expressed his reservations about the interview--indeed,
about the printed word itself--as a means of communication,
suggesting that the question-and-answer format might impede
the in-depth flow of his ideas. I assured him that he
would have as much time--and space--as he wished to develop
his thoughts."
The result has considerably more lucidity
and clarity than McLuhan's readers are accustomed to--perhaps
because the Q. and A. format serves to pin him down by
counteracting his habit of mercurially changing the subject
in mid-stream of consciousness. It is also, we think,
a protean and provocative distillation not only of McLuhan's
original theories about human progress and social institutions
but of his almost immobilizingly intricate style--described
by novelist George P. Elliott as "deliberately antilogical,
circular, repetitious, unqualified, gnomic, outrageous"
and, even less charitably, by critic Christopher Ricks
as "a viscous fog through which loom stumbling metaphors."
But other authorities contend that McLuhan's stylistic
medium is part and parcel of his message--that the tightly
structured "linear" modes of traditional thought
and discourse are obsolescent in the new "postliterate"
age of the electric media. Norden began the interview
with an allusion to McLuhan's favorite electric medium:
television.
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